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The 11 November 2009 build (5911) is out.

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stahta01

#30
November 23, 2009, 12:38:42 AM
Quote from: godlike on November 22, 2009, 09:01:32 PM
I put a custom ICPC flag but it never saves it. When I click ok and then go again its lost.

What exactly do you put in?

Tim S.
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godlike

#31
November 23, 2009, 09:40:43 AM
Quote from: stahta01 on November 23, 2009, 12:38:42 AM
Quote from: godlike on November 22, 2009, 09:01:32 PM
I put a custom ICPC flag but it never saves it. When I click ok and then go again its lost.

What exactly do you put in?

Tim S.

It doesnt work whatever flag I put in. But since you ask I put -O3 just to test it

Dr.Optix

#32
November 23, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
Nice improvement in Code Completion, it works like a charm with Qt. Hope it will parse ok BASS headers and Win32 headers.

I'll keep up with the feedback as soon as I spot a bug or an improvement.

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Pecan

#33
November 24, 2009, 12:29:16 AM Last Edit: November 24, 2009, 12:41:26 AM by Pecan
Quote from: godlike on November 23, 2009, 09:40:43 AM
Quote from: stahta01 on November 23, 2009, 12:38:42 AM
Quote from: godlike on November 22, 2009, 09:01:32 PM
I put a custom ICPC flag but it never saves it. When I click ok and then go again its lost.

What exactly do you put in?

Tim S.

It doesnt work whatever flag I put in. But since you ask I put -O3 just to test it

If you put -O3 in "Project build options" tab "other options", but you did not check tab "Compiler flags" -O3 options, it will be removed by CB.


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godlike

#34
November 24, 2009, 09:38:29 AM
Quote from: Pecan on November 24, 2009, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: godlike on November 23, 2009, 09:40:43 AM
Quote from: stahta01 on November 23, 2009, 12:38:42 AM
Quote from: godlike on November 22, 2009, 09:01:32 PM
I put a custom ICPC flag but it never saves it. When I click ok and then go again its lost.

What exactly do you put in?

Tim S.

It doesnt work whatever flag I put in. But since you ask I put -O3 just to test it

If you put -O3 in "Project build options" tab "other options", but you did not check tab "Compiler flags" -O3 options, it will be removed by CB.


I also tried flags that are not listed in the "compiler settings" tab. For some reason it removes every flag I put in "other options". I will try to replicate the bug using clean settings.

cybek

#35
November 26, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
Saving projects don't work. I change my tabs position (sort) and i click save all files &&/|| save project, it don't work. When i reload my project, the tabs is opened with old sort.

/* My english sucks (segmentation fault) , i know */

stahta01

#36
November 26, 2009, 04:42:35 PM Last Edit: November 26, 2009, 04:45:21 PM by stahta01
Quote from: cybek on November 26, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
Saving projects don't work. I change my tabs position (sort) and i click save all files &&/|| save project, it don't work. When i reload my project, the tabs is opened with old sort.

/* My english sucks (segmentation fault) , i know */

Try saving the project layout.
I think it is
View -> Prespectives -> Save Current

Tim S.
C Programmer working to learn more about C++.
On Windows 10 64 bit and Windows 11 64 bit.
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cybek

#37
November 26, 2009, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: stahta01 on November 26, 2009, 04:42:35 PM
Quote from: cybek on November 26, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
Saving projects don't work. I change my tabs position (sort) and i click save all files &&/|| save project, it don't work. When i reload my project, the tabs is opened with old sort.

/* My english sucks (segmentation fault) , i know */

Try saving the project layout.
I think it is
View -> Prespectives -> Save Current

Tim S.

Sorry, don't work. I talk about tabs with opened files.

Jenna

#38
November 26, 2009, 07:39:21 PM
Quote from: cybek on November 26, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
Saving projects don't work. I change my tabs position (sort) and i click save all files &&/|| save project, it don't work. When i reload my project, the tabs is opened with old sort.

It's a problem with the wxAuiNotebook we use.
The tabs are saved (and reopened) in the order they have been opened originally.

There is no workaround I know, except patching wxWidgets or using an own notebook-class derived from wxAuiNotebbok.

I have a working patch for the second (see here: http://forums.next.codeblocks.org/index.php/topic,11519.0.html ), but the number of answers in this thread is overwhelming  :cry: .

cybek

#39
November 29, 2009, 12:50:55 AM
Thanks for reply. I continue discussion in topic that you post.

lp08

#40
November 29, 2009, 11:13:47 AM
crash when importing vorbis_dynamic.sln in libvorbis-1.2.3 \ win32 \ VS2008

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Error occured on Sunday, November 29, 2009 at 10:53:44.

C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.exe caused an Access Violation at location 77c17740 in module C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll Reading from location 00000000.

Registers:
eax=00000000 ebx=61801701 ecx=70529280 edx=00000000 esi=00496328 edi=0022fb40
eip=77c17740 esp=0022e5a8 ebp=0022e9e4 iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00010246

Call stack:
77C17740  C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll:77C17740  strcmp
70506AE6  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:70506AE6
7050728E  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:7050728E
7051491D  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:7051491D
70514DE5  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:70514DE5
6189CB73  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.dll:6189CB73  _ZN14ProjectManager11LoadProjectERK8wxStringb
70508BFC  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:70508BFC
70513FD8  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:70513FD8
70514DFF  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:70514DFF
0042FA8C  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.exe:0042FA8C
0042FB8B  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.exe:0042FB8B
6CCCB32E  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCB32E  _ZN12wxEvtHandler21ProcessEventIfMatchesERK21wxEventTableEntryBasePS_R7wxEvent
6CCCC909  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCC909  _ZN16wxEventHashTable11HandleEventER7wxEventP12wxEvtHandler
6CCCCDCF  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCDCF  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
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6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
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6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
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6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
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6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
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6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
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6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CCCCD71  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCCCD71  _ZN12wxEvtHandler12ProcessEventER7wxEvent
6CD9C4C9  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CD9C4C9  _ZN11wxFrameBase14ProcessCommandEi
6CD38EC8  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CD38EC8  _ZN7wxFrame13HandleCommandEttPv
6CD3A957  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CD3A957  _ZN7wxFrame13MSWWindowProcEjjl
6CD15E91  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CD15E91  _Z9wxWndProcP6HWND__jjl@16
7E398734  C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll:7E398734  GetDC
7E398816  C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll:7E398816  GetDC
7E3989CD  C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll:7E3989CD  GetWindowLongW
7E398A10  C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll:7E398A10  DispatchMessageW
6CCFD1D0  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCFD1D0  _ZN11wxEventLoop14ProcessMessageEP6tagMSG
6CCFD4DC  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCFD4DC  _ZN11wxEventLoop8DispatchEv
6CD93813  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CD93813  _ZN17wxEventLoopManual3RunEv
6CD70DFB  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CD70DFB  _ZN9wxAppBase8MainLoopEv
00403B83  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.exe:00403B83
6CC7730D  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CC7730D  _Z12wxInitializeiPPw
6CCD3088  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\wxmsw28u_gcc_cb.dll:6CCD3088  _Z7wxEntryP11HINSTANCE__S0_Pci
0040724E  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.exe:0040724E
004563F8  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.exe:004563F8
0040124B  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.exe:0040124B
004012B8  C:\Programmi\CodeBlocks\codeblocks.exe:004012B8
7C817077  C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll:7C817077  RegisterWaitForInputIdle

stahta01

#41
November 29, 2009, 08:01:35 PM Last Edit: November 29, 2009, 08:28:00 PM by stahta01
Quote from: lp08 on November 29, 2009, 11:13:47 AM
crash when importing vorbis_dynamic.sln in libvorbis-1.2.3 \ win32 \ VS2008

Fails to import project libvorbis-1.2.3\win32\VS2008\libvorbis\libvorbis_dynamic.vcproj

I am thinking it is crashing inside file msvc7loader.cpp
bool MSVC7Loader::DoSelectConfiguration(TiXmlElement* root)

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Call stack:
77488B21  D:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll:77488B21  strcmp
70502C92  H:\SourceCode\Projects\IDEs\CodeBlocks\codeblocks-wx28-DW2\src\output\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:70502C92  _ZN11MSVC7Loader21DoSelectConfigurationEP12TiXmlElement
70502351  H:\SourceCode\Projects\IDEs\CodeBlocks\codeblocks-wx28-DW2\src\output\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:70502351  _ZN11MSVC7Loader4OpenERK8wxString
70519FD4  H:\SourceCode\Projects\IDEs\CodeBlocks\codeblocks-wx28-DW2\src\output\share\codeblocks\plugins\projectsimporter.dll:70519FD4  _ZN16ProjectsImporter11LoadProjectERK8wxString
C Programmer working to learn more about C++.
On Windows 10 64 bit and Windows 11 64 bit.
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stahta01

#42
December 03, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
Patch for NOPCH Windows Build and changing "sdk_precomp.h" to "sdk.h"

Tim S.

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Index: src/plugins/contrib/CppCheck/CppCheckListLog.cpp
===================================================================
--- src/plugins/contrib/CppCheck/CppCheckListLog.cpp (revision 5951)
+++ src/plugins/contrib/CppCheck/CppCheckListLog.cpp (working copy)
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#include "sdk_precomp.h"
+#include "sdk.h"

#ifndef CB_PRECOMP
     #include <wx/arrstr.h>
Index: src/plugins/contrib/IncrementalSearch/IncrementalSearch.cpp
===================================================================
--- src/plugins/contrib/IncrementalSearch/IncrementalSearch.cpp (revision 5951)
+++ src/plugins/contrib/IncrementalSearch/IncrementalSearch.cpp (working copy)
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
     #include <configmanager.h>
     #include <editormanager.h>
     #include <cbeditor.h>
+    #include <logmanager.h>
#endif

#include <cbstyledtextctrl.h>
Index: src/sdk/projectfileoptionsdlg.cpp
===================================================================
--- src/sdk/projectfileoptionsdlg.cpp (revision 5951)
+++ src/sdk/projectfileoptionsdlg.cpp (working copy)
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
#ifndef CB_PRECOMP
     #include "cbproject.h"
     #include "compilerfactory.h"
+    #include "logmanager.h"
     #include <wx/xrc/xmlres.h>
     #include <wx/intl.h>
     #include <wx/choice.h>
C Programmer working to learn more about C++.
On Windows 10 64 bit and Windows 11 64 bit.
--
When in doubt, read the CB WiKi FAQ. [url="http://wiki.codeblocks.org"]http://wiki.codeblocks.org[/url]

Jenna

#43
December 06, 2009, 02:09:12 AM
Quote from: stahta01 on December 03, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
Patch for NOPCH Windows Build and changing "sdk_precomp.h" to "sdk.h"

Tim S.

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Index: src/plugins/contrib/CppCheck/CppCheckListLog.cpp
===================================================================
--- src/plugins/contrib/CppCheck/CppCheckListLog.cpp (revision 5951)
+++ src/plugins/contrib/CppCheck/CppCheckListLog.cpp (working copy)
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#include "sdk_precomp.h"
+#include "sdk.h"

#ifndef CB_PRECOMP
     #include <wx/arrstr.h>
Index: src/plugins/contrib/IncrementalSearch/IncrementalSearch.cpp
===================================================================
--- src/plugins/contrib/IncrementalSearch/IncrementalSearch.cpp (revision 5951)
+++ src/plugins/contrib/IncrementalSearch/IncrementalSearch.cpp (working copy)
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
     #include <configmanager.h>
     #include <editormanager.h>
     #include <cbeditor.h>
+    #include <logmanager.h>
#endif

#include <cbstyledtextctrl.h>
Index: src/sdk/projectfileoptionsdlg.cpp
===================================================================
--- src/sdk/projectfileoptionsdlg.cpp (revision 5951)
+++ src/sdk/projectfileoptionsdlg.cpp (working copy)
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
#ifndef CB_PRECOMP
     #include "cbproject.h"
     #include "compilerfactory.h"
+    #include "logmanager.h"
     #include <wx/xrc/xmlres.h>
     #include <wx/intl.h>
     #include <wx/choice.h>

done in svn r5954

laserbeak43

#44
December 09, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
I can't open .7z files at work!!(i looked for a portable archive app but they all had installers anyway.)
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